Belting - 2006/12/17 04:53I'm a pretty good singer, my trouble is I'm not loud. If I try to be I end up straining my voice, I can't belt very well. I sound worse if I try to go loud than when I sing softly. Any advice?Melchi Gabor, he's such a radical!!!
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triplethreat
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Re:Belting - 2006/12/17 06:30FYI - projecting and belting are two different things. If you are having difficulty projecting it is most likely a problem with breathing or vocal placement, or both. Please read the following, and let me know if that helps:
I know how you feel but opposite. I just found out from my voice teacher that I'm a serious belt singer, and now I'm trying to learn to tame that and try using some head voice instead of so much chest, my problem is I don't like the fact that I can't get as loud as before.
But never fear! She has told me working on air support will help that a lot, and learning how to "fake belt" by using more nose to resinate. That, and it's not always bad to be quiet
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Re:Belting - 2006/12/18 05:35I need help being louder when I sing, I think that's projecting. I do fine projecting when I speak, but when I try to sing loudly it doesn't sound as good as it normally would if I sang softer. I'm 12, so this may have something to do with it.Melchi Gabor, he's such a radical!!!
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Re:Belting - 2006/12/18 05:50Your voice is at an unstable age, so that could definitely have something to do with it. Please do try the breathing exercises mentioned, they have worked for so many of my students._____________ Kris MTA Admin
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Re:Belting - 2007/02/12 06:31here recently i've been trying to really exercise my voice as well. trying to get to sound good even when singing loudly and things like that. i don't have a vocal intructor to tell me how to improve my voice so this is just me talking about my own personal experience and it may not be the best thing to try, but it works for me so it might work for you too.
if you've seen the movie Elf, singing is defined as "the same as talking only louder and longer." try to apply this idea as you're singing. you said you don't have a problem projecting while talking so this may work. dont' try to make your voice sound like a certian style (ex. belting, head voice) just make it your voice. the best example i can think of to illustrate this is Julie Andrews. her singing voice sounds like her speaking voice and there's no question who it is when you hear her sing. once you flesh out your voice you can experiment with belting and everything else.
hope that made sense. and i hope it helps!
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Re:Belting - 2007/04/14 14:20I agree with Kris especially....your voice is at a very unstable stage. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE don't try to force it, you can seriously damage your vocal chords and end up with..dum dum dum...NODES. I've had quite a few students in your age bracket, and the best thing to do is just sing what's comfortable, and if you have a voice teacher that's telling you to push more than your voice is capable of at this point...find a new voice teacher.
have fun!~*~Angelina~*~
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Re:Belting - 2007/04/14 16:03I'm no expert but I've found that learning about proper breathing technique really helps. Breath support is tricky to master and takes a lot of practice. I still struggle. Plus, you voice is likely changing, it's not just boys who expierence vocal changes. You will probably find that your range will change and you may expierence times when you just can't for the life of you sing the notes you used to. Don't worry, it's just your voice changing and you may get those notes back, as well as a few new ones, after your voice matures.
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Re:Belting - 2007/04/14 20:01These guys are good with advice! I was going to say 'don't push it' but that would just be reiterating everybody else's advice. You don't want to end up like poor Julie Andrews, do you?
In the meantime, work on lung capacity and what triplethreat told you to do. She is amazing from what I've read so far!-Ali
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Re:Belting - 2007/04/14 22:05I've always wondered..... do guys have issues with belting? I never heard about guys belting, and no guy ever came here for belting advice.*´¨) ¸.•´¸.•*´¨) ¸.•*¨) (¸.•´ (¸.•´ Annie
currently: nothing : (
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Re:Belting - 2007/04/18 13:54Hey, ising and aliauthor--I got nodes when I was still in college, during the summer of my first theme park job. I was classically trained and had never used a microphone before. We did six shows a day, with constant singing and dancing throughout. I went full throttle all the time as if I were singing in a musical without a microphone. That, and the fact that the very athletic dancing made it difficult to support properly, gave me nodes.
It is one of the scariest things that ever happened to me. It actually hurt to sing toward the end of the summer, but I just ignored it (after all, the show must go on!) and kept singing full voice all the time. After a while, it stopped hurting and I was very relieved. In fact, what had happened was that my vocal chords had become so calloused that I could no longer feel the pain. I should have stopped when it hurt.
Then, one morning, I woke up with no voice at all....none. It was freaky. I stayed in the show for the last few weeks of the summer because I knew all the choreography, and I just mouthed the words.
I couldn't make a sound for weeks. When the summer ended, I went to a doctor and learned I had nodes. I had never even heard of them before. I had to have surgery to remove them, which is done while you are concious because you need to tile your head back and open your throat. I don't recommend it!!
This was way before Julie Andrews, and I really wasn't scared. I had to do about six months of vocal rehab, but eventually my voice was back to normal and it didn't really change. I was probably lucky because I was young and the damage happened quickly, not over a period of years.
Listen to your body! If it hurts, stop singing!!
Henrik
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